Loading .357 Magnum Magazines For LAR Grizzly

Wow... I thought I had seen it all... I have never had any trouble loading my .357 magazines for my Grizzlies, but apparently it was a problem at some point. I just picked up a Grizzly that I purchased from an indiviual online and I found this little peice of paper with these instructions on it. Interesting...

The gun was great! New in the box parkerized in .357... it even had the original bill of sale from 1995 with it.

How The 1911 Design Works...

Here is a link to some diagrams that will help you understand how a Grizzly or 1911 design pistol actually functions How M1911s Really Work. This may shed some light on how a barrel bushing compensator is in fact effective to a degree.

GRIZZLY RECOIL COMPENSATOR

I appreciate Paul's post about the compensated barrels. I have only seen one of them ever... I always wanted to find another one and now I am not so interested. Does anyone know how many pistols were ever shipped with a compensated barrel.

The other question I have is... how effective is the barrel bushing style compensator? I can feel the difference, but it doesn't seem dramatic... Is there any data regarding their true effectiveness?

First Year Grizzly Win Mag Price List

I was able to get my hands on a "first year" pricw list from L.A.R. I find all of the Grizzly Win MAg memorabilia to be very interesting. I hope you guys do to!

Wouldn't it be nice if these guns were still being produced. I understood that LAR experienced overwhelming response to the offering of these pistols. It would be nice to know the real story of their demise. I have heard rumors that LAR at one time got in some trouble with issues and/or lawsuits revolvong around some government contracts and shortly after that they discontinued production of the pistols.

Does anyone know the real scoop?

ORIGINAL GRIZZLY WIN MAG COLOR BROCHURE!

I happened to purchase a Grizzly Mark I awhile back from an estate sale and was lucky enough to find all of the first year marketing materials tucked away in the bottom of the original box. These are scanned images of the front and back of the "original" Grizzly sales brochure. Note the pre-production serial number. I thought it was really a neat find! Hope you enjoy seeing it.

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Grizzly Win Mag Pistol Barrel Porting

The following is a letter included with a Grizzly .45 Win Mag Pistol with a 6.5 inch Barrel I own . I'II enter it exactly as its written -----------------------NOTICE --------------------------Dear Customer , Please note that the Barrel on your Grizzly Win Mag Pistol has not been ported. After substantial testing , we have found that the ports hampered accuracy and velocity. Also , the test revealed that the recoil with or without the ports were not that noticeable. Accuracy and Velocity far out weigh the recoil advanatge prompting us to eliminate the ports. Thank You, L.A.R. Manufacturing Inc.

Purple .45 Grizzlies

I have a .45 Grizzly Winchester Magnum that is purple in colour , its in the very low A000100's serial number ranges , I' ve been told that the colour is a phenomenon caused by the amount of silicone in the metal and then the reaction in the blueing process . Next blog will be a factory letter included with one of my Grizzlies stating the reasons why the factory elimated factory ported barrels .

L.A.R. 45 Grizzly Win Mag pistols

I have always used the acronym L.A.R. when decribing the .45 Winchester Magnum pistols , as I did'nt realize all the outher facts as to the orgins of this pistol , so in the future I''ll refer to them as .45 Grizzlies .

caculations

Perry , when you said you did the caculations for the L.A.R. , what did you caculate and how did you know what to caculate , say for the 45 Winchester Magnum , what was going on in your mind ? Where do / did you start and how did you know what to start with , numbers , pressures etc . Paul

Grizzly Holster Molds

I`ve always been a big fan of magnum autos from the early Mars automatic to the .44 Auto Mag and the Grizzly Win Mag. Over the years I`d fired a few like the Desert Eagle which struck me as ungainly and heavy for their caliber (the .50AE may be the one exception). The safety was also hard to reach with the firing hand which to me makes it useless for personal protection against dangerous critters etc. What I wanted was a magnum class auto that was easily packable and had good ergos. A .357 Coonan wasn`t the answer,a 10mm has just as much power. It had to be a big bore. Enter the Grizzly! I finally came across a Mk1 in .45WinMag with the 5.4" barrel. It was all I hoped,a high quality pistol with big power in a nice flat package about the same weight as an N frame S&W. Now all I needed was a good holster or two....yep...that`s all...
A thorough search of holster sites on the web turned up exactly ZERO holsters. It fit in one of my Bianchi X-15 shoulder rigs but I wanted a molded to fit belt rig that would minimize it`s bulk and weight. So I started calling custom holster makers. Most would have been more than happy to make one..IF...they had a dummy (or real) Grizzly to mold the holster to. These dummy or molds are generally cast from aluminum although some of the newer ones are hard plastic. Only 2 or 3 companies make them though and they`ll only make them for popular guns. Bummer. Never being one to give up easily I decided to see about having some made.
The wife of a friend of mine it an accomplished artist and sculptor. In the last few years she`s started taking completed sculptures and moldign exact copied out of hi tech plastcis made by a company called Smooth-On. They molding techniques are so good that if done perfectly they can actually reproduce the fingerprints on an object! Now we`re talkin! I approached her about doing some holster mold dummy guns and after a little persuasion she agreed. Now,part of this process is to submerge the original object in molding goo which then sets up like hard silicon based Jello. I don`t have to tell you how getting that stuff into the lockwork would suck and I was more than a little nervous about having my baby go through the procedure. They use a special type of oil bases clay to fill holes like the barrel but I was concerned that the thin liquid could get in around the ejection port,side of the hammer etc. My solution as to grease the lockwork and sensitive areas of the gun then wipe off the excess. The normal mold release would take care of the big outside areas like the slide and frame. Finally the day came and there were problems. The grease seemed to have a reaction with the mold material and the mold came out imperfect. Some areas were crisp and perfect,reproducing litte details like the head of the windage adj. screw,the serial number and the raging Grizzly logo etc. Other areas has an lightly curdled texture to them and there were a few small air bubble inclusions. The gun was a slimy freakin mess! Oh man...it took 3 days or evenings to clean all the glop out of it. I shudder to think how bad it would have been without that grease in there because the pink mold material still got inside the gun! Close examination showed that oil soaked up by the parkerizing over the years hay have reasted with the mold agent as well as the grease despite the fact that it was "degreased" with alchohol before the process began. The results were one mold that experienced core shift and ended up thicker than actual size and one that is accurate within .015 or so with the aforementioned texture and air inclusion issues. The texture is no biggie,this is just being used to wet mold leather. Only a few of the inclusions would be an issue. I filled and sanded those out with PC7 putty. There`s no way I`m putting my gun through that process again and she invested a LOT more time in it than expected and she wasn`t at all happy with the end result. As an artist she was put off my the little imperfections ie. it was ugly to her. So we`re at the end of the road and I`ve got one usable holster mold/dummy gun. I contacted a few holster makers and decided on the one I wanted to make my new holsters. That`s pretty much where my story ends. He was supposed to have a 2 or 3 month lead time and I`ve been waiting close to 6 and still no news. Maybe time to try another holster maker. When the time comes I`ll make sure to post an update here so that anyone else who wants a Griz holster made can have it done while my mold is still at their shop. Mark Savitske